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Thank you for the video...very informative.
Thanks for the video. I just got a new job with a tree company. I don't know much about the industry. I'm all over YouTube trying to learn as much as I can. I love how you care about quality. Just by the way you are concerned about the look of the wrap let's me know how much you care. Great video. BTW you can't see everything you are doing but you are telling us everything in such detail you don't need to see. And if you are confused about what he is doing because you can't see just call a pro before you get killed. Damn millennial!
You, good Sir, are the real treasure of ISA. All the best!
JEEROFUKU fine compliment indeed, thank you.
How do you come up with your pricing for different jobs?Thanks in advance.
Darth Vader for a cable install, it costs me about 30.00 in supplies. If I can do it alone, around 285.00. More for longer cables
I think I'm finally seeing the difference between an Arborist and a Tree Surgeon. I believe a tree surgeon would come along and just remove the tree and charge more money. I'm a hippy at heart and firmly believe in the way trees help us day to day. Im educating my self in Arboriculture for sure! Thanks so much Blair
Great knowledge base. Thanks for sharing
Come to New Zealand Blair. You'll love it. You and yours can stay with Debra and me for a time as short or as long. Put your feet up, talk trees, talk stuff, go on an adventure maybe. You'll love it. www.gracebrook.co.nz
Very instructive. The cable tying especially. Thank you.
For me, this video contained many wisdoms - in taking the time to value one's own work, in appreciating the process, in looking deeply into things, in thinking things through thoroughly and in properly acknowledging the contribution of previous generations. If these kinds of values were more widespread in our workplaces, the world would be a fairer place..
Wise Old Oak your comment made my day! Thanks. Here is today's job.https://youtu.be/H_d-yRxBkD4
Boy, you sure are "taking the time to smell the roses " when you notice the strands on the cable job in your tree go in the same or alternate directions. I would do them the same but I bet more cable wrap jobs get hit by lightning then noticed by non tree people. Just saying
People not noticing your cabling is a sign of success. If wrapping the cable in the same direction gives the cable a more uniform beautiful look then all the merrier. Cables are ugly things and they can't spare anything that makes them look even marginally better. Besides, I'm pretty sure the birds are closely inspecting the work and judging.
Nice work! very good information. I need you to come cable one of my trees. ha ha
Keith Castleberry thanks Keith
nice work Glenn
nice job! an old timer taught me a simple trick to get really clean wraps. after each individual complete turn, if you bend the strand up approximately 30 degrees, your next wrap will fit snug like it was done with a machine. a clean wrap makes the job look so much better, and prevents it from being pulled over the others. Blair, you use a simple clove hitch w/ a half hitch for your climb line? no taut line hitch?
Michigan Mister I use a taught line hitch. Don't use a Blake hitch but my guys do. I like a free sliding knot and in so comfortable with it, hey, I'm old school.
Check woodprix handbook if you want to make it cheaper and better.
It would be nice to see what you are doing and not just your shoulder.
Don't be critical. He did very well, and we should appreciate the efforts.
I do the best I can by myself. Hardly ever get a camera person
wow after reading some of the comments I'm litteraly laughing out loud. okay for one there's always going to be constructive criticism but this is the best cabling video on youtube so no need for that. second of all it is totally possible to cable a tree to high. in fact I'd be willing to say it's better to cable a little low say 1/2 the height from crotch to top, than 75-80% or 3/4... Especially when the tops are as small as the ones in the video it would be too small to but in a j-lag
Blair I'm not saying you did anything wrong. I'm just stating this incase someone was saying you cabled it wrong. Looks good to me where you cabled it
exactly right, you were the one pounding that puppy...
Thank you. Every tree decision is made based on what the Arborist believes is the best call.
The cable should be placed 2/3 the height above the split. I'm a certified arborist and I can tell you right now the higher you put the cable the better. It's not easy because it's farther apart but that will benefit the tree more.
cabling a tree has its pros & cons. Would you agree with me ? cut down the tree! Great video ,I learned from you ,Thanks
I always tried to install at points that I called "the shoulders" of the sections. I really enjoyed cabling.
Sometimes the smaller diameter wood up higher might not hold as well. It's only a lag. As he said, you have to see this tree.
Easy to say that without seeing the tree but I chose this location based on my understanding of the wood, the weight and the defect I'm trying to stabilize. I too am a Certified Arborist and this was my call.
I've never seen cables spliced like that, I learnt something today! In the marine industry, everything is pressure swaged.Thimbles don't just prevent chafing, they stop the wire being "crippled" by being pulled into too sharp a bend around the terminal point. Crippling a wire can weaken it by around 50% and cause fatigue loading on individual strands as the wire loads and unloads and the wire flexes at the terminal point.Not using a thimble also makes it hard to set a permanent tension on the cable, as the wire wants to keep straightening into a harder, tighter bend. The thimble prevents that and allows more accurate tensioning.
Thank you for the info. This is old school cabling.
Thank you Blair for the awesome tutorial... I'm fairly confident I could do a great cabling job now because of you.. Excellent teaching skills sir... Big thumbs up...
Thx for the great instruction mr. Blair
+Tyrone Layes thank you for your kind comments.
+arboristBlairGlenn Will do sir, Point is, if needed? I now understand the basic concept and would be able to do it "Old School" if need be... I still learned a great deal from your post... Thank you for that...
Remember, this is the "old school" method.
Good tutorial. Thanks for taking the time to do it.
Thanks, old school but still viable.
Thanks for the tree cabling show how , looks good and stable .
wouldn't best practice be to cut down the tree if its a danger to the owner and the public ?... I mean I realize no one wants to cut down a tree, but sticking these tie in is just postponing the job for someone down the road...I'm no expert, just watched a slew of tree video's and if someone with your experience told me to chop it down, it'd been down yesterday..
If a cable is used to help make a weakness stronger, then it is a good thing. If the tree is ready to fail, then I advise accordingly. I have cabled trees before that should have been removed but get it in writing that the cables will not save the tree. They might help prevent a limb Fromm hitting a structure. So, cables are good and cables can be used wrong.
Great video! I'm used to the newer systems. Preformed wraps and lag bolts also Cobra systems. But there is still alot of wisdom and art in the "old school" ways. Keep climbing and stay safe!
I also use pre formed wraps but there is nothing wrong with the way it has been done for the last hundred years.
you ever try using preforms? that's what we use when putting in guy wires for powerlines we use the same cable. might be alot easier than hand tieing
Yes I have used them many times. This is more about "old School"--
Thank you for this great video. I'm having a tree trimmed and cabled tomorrow and I like to be informed on what is being done. I hope he displays the know how and pride in good work that you show in this video.
Likely done a different style than what I am showing here but then concept is the same.
Thx great vid. I'm in the midst of a career change to arborist and it helps to watch and learn from the pro's. Be safe and keep up the great work.
Welcome to the world of trees
Very nice! Exactly how I was taught, 40 years ago! I eventually switched to high tensile cable and diamond dust wraps for time purposes but I miss doing a nice NEAT cable wrap. Still use my bit and brace though! I really enjoy your videos.
I also use wraps but I enjoy the old way.
different than how I was taught, but nice to see another way thanks for the lesson.
This is real old school stuff.
Wonder, why not tuck the ends down and wrap the next course over them? Then only the seventh course would have an exposed end. Seems tidier.
There is tidy and there is getting the job done. You really can be too neat when you are in business trying to pay the bills
Good video. The placement height needs to be determined by the arborist on site. Also, steel is a good, reliable and inexpensive way to cable stout trees that don't sway too much, trees with good compartmentalization ability and trees with included bark.
Thanks Mark. lots of different ways to do the same job.
These naysayers are jackasses. You made a nice vide. 10 to one the assholes whit all the negativity haven't done shit.
Camera needs to be pulled back. Too much footage too low or too high for camera.
I need to cable a large hackberry, but had planned on drilling all the way through each trunk & use eye bolts, turnbuckles & cable clamps. Any thoughts or recommendations?
Very nice and detailed installation.I want to do some job like that on my tree that was damaged in the December ice storm in Texas. Thanks for your nice and detailed video.
He's an ISA certified arborist since the 70s. You don't think he's already heard everything you guys are criticizing him for?
You need to look at the tree before you tell me how the placement is wrong
Blair. You need to read the ANSI A300 (Part 3)-2013
34.3.2 Anchor(s) should be installed at or near a point two-thirds (2/3) of the length/height of the branch or leader to be supported, measured from the junction to be supported.
The A300 is the industry standard that all profesional arborist adhere to. This video should be pulled and replaced with one that shows the proper installation of a cable to industry standards.
You know, there are so many opinions about how to do something or why it is right or why it is wrong. I am of the opinion that the person doing the job makes the decisions based on what is observed. If I were to cable the tree as high as you say then the size of the limbs are way too small. All I am trying to do here is to minimise the movement in this defect. Steel cables have been used correctly for decades. They are also used wrong in many cases. Sorry Daniel, I won't "pull" this video.
some ideas might better be lost
like using static steel cable in trees
on splicing steel cable i agree, but not in trees
you seem like a nice guy Blair. Those cables are set way too low. That is not industry standard, and not recommended.. LEVERAGE... I put mine in as high as possible, often over 2/3 the height from branch union to tips.. Its actually nice to see the soft cable wrap.
And you should pull this video.. its that bad.. very unprofessional.. it would be like sending clients invoices typed on an electric typewriter.. or climbing on manila rope
excuse me, i want to ask where could i find the law stopping filling the tree hole. thanks. :)
Thanks for the comment. I'm sure I will get critics to this tutorial and I know things are changing but I also believe that it is important to understand all the processes. I have also used other techniques. Hope you continue to watch the videos as I put them out there.
tree care changed in the last 40 years, so did cableling
maybe take some time and update
maybe try light pruning, dynamic catch, little slack
good luck with it
Did the town of Carp cable the Torrey Pine?
Cool trick with the wrap swaging. Bet some grizzled 60 year old showed you how to do that.
Thank you. I hope more "old timers" like myself can do more of these types of tree tutorials. Some of what we do is going to be lost unless more of our youth choose this path as a career.
Nice work, Blair ... good tutorial!
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